# San Clemente Orthodontics | Invisalign Premier Provider | Dr John Redmond

> John Redmond Orthodontics provides high-quality orthodontic treatment while making your experience comfortable and enjoyable. We are Invisalign Premier Providers. Call Us today!


## Pages

- [Laguna Beach Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/laguna-beach-braces/)
- [Laguna Beach Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/laguna-beach-orthodontist/)
- [Aliso Viejo Invisalign](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/aliso-viejo-invisalign/)
- [Dental Pain Erasure](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/dental-pain-erasure/)
- [TMJ Treatment](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/tmj-treatment/)
- [Airway Treatment](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/airway-treatment/)
- [Aliso Viejo Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/aliso-viejo-braces/)
- [Aliso Viejo Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/aliso-viejo-orthodontist/)
- [Orange County Metal Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/orange-county-metal-braces/)
- [Capistrano Beach Clear Aligners](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/capistrano-beach-invisalign/)
- [Laguna Niguel Clear Aligners](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/laguna-niguel-invisalign/)
- [San Juan Capistrano Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/san-juan-capistrano-orthodontist/)
- [San Juan Capistrano Clear Aligners](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/san-juan-capistrano-invisalign/)
- [San Juan Capistrano Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/san-juan-capistrano-braces/)
- [Orange County Clear Aligners](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/orange-county-invisalign/)
- [Orange County Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/orange-county-braces/)
- [Services](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/services/)
- [Office Tour](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/office-tour/)
- [Forms & Patient Resources](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/forms-patient-resources/)
- [Welcome New Patients](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/welcome-new-patients/)
- [Rancho Mission Viejo Clear Aligners](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/rancho-mission-viejo-invisalign/)
- [Rancho Mission Viejo Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/rancho-mission-viejo-braces/)
- [Rancho Mission Viejo Orthodontics](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/rancho-mission-viejo-orthodontics/)
- [San Juan Capistrano Orthodontics](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/san-juan-capistrano-orthodontics/)
- [Oceanside Clear Aligners Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/oceanside-invisalign-orthodontist/)
- [Oceanside Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/oceanside-braces/)
- [Oceanside Orthodontics](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/oceanside-orthodontics/)
- [Laguna Niguel Kids Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/laguna-niguel-kids-orthodontist/)
- [Laguna Niguel Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/laguna-niguel-braces/)
- [Laguna Niguel Pediatric Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/laguna-niguel-pediatric-orthodontist/)
- [Before and After](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/before-and-after/)
- [Important Dental & Braces Information](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/important-dental-braces-information/)
- [Orthodontics and Personal Injuries](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/orthodontics-and-personal-injuries/)
- [Orthodontic Care For Accident Injuries](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/orthodontic-care-for-accident-injuries/)
- [Rancho Mission Viejo Orthodontists](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/rancho-mission-viejo-orthodontists/)
- [Laguna Niguel Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/laguna-niguel-orthodontist/)
- [Orange County Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/orange-county-orthodontist/)
- [Oceanside Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/oceanside-orthodontist/)
- [Dana Point Pediatric Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/dana-point-pediatric-orthodontist/)
- [Dana Point Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/dana-point-braces/)
- [Blog](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/blog/)
- [Orthodontic Care For Crooked Teeth Or Jaw Problems](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/orthodontic-care-for-crooked-teeth-or-jaw-problems/)
- [Making People Smile Scholarship](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/making-people-smile-scholarship/)
- [San Clemente Kid’s Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/san-clemente-kids-orthodontist/)
- [San Clemente Adult Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/san-clemente-adult-orthodontist/)
- [Dana Point Adult Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/dana-point-adult-orthodontist/)
- [San Clemente Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/san-clemente-braces/)
- [San Clemente Pediatric Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/san-clemente-pediatric-orthodontist/)
- [San Clemente Orthodontics](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/san-clemente-orthodontics/)
- [Dana Point Clear Aligners](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/dana-point-invisalign/)
- [Sitemap](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/sitemap/)
- [Testimonials](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/testimonials/)
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- [Appointment Request](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/appointment-request/)
- [Privacy Policy](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/privacy-policy/)
- [San Clemente Clear Aligners](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/san-clemente-invisalign/)
- [Dana Point INBRACE](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/dana-point-inbrace/)
- [Meet The Team](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/about/)
- [Home](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/)
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- [San Clemente iTero™ Treatments](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/san-clemente-itero/)
- [San Clemente Teen Clear Aligners](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/san-clemente-teen-invisalign/)
- [San Clemente Office](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/san-clemente-ca/)


## Posts

- [Orthodontic Treatment Options For Every Patient](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/orthodontic-treatment-options-for-every-patient/)
- [Sports Safety For Kids With Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/sports-safety-for-kids-with-braces/)
- [Signs Your Child May Need Orthodontic Evaluation Before Age Seven](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/signs-your-child-may-need-orthodontic-evaluation-before-age-seven/)
- [Focus On Your Smile This Year!](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/focus-on-your-smile-this-year/)
- [How Tight Muscles Can Lead To Knee And Jaw Pain](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/how-tight-muscles-can-lead-to-knee-and-jaw-pain/)
- [The Benefits Of Adult Orthodontics](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/the-benefits-of-adult-orthodontics/)
- [Tips For Better Dental Health With Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/tips-for-better-dental-health-with-braces/)
- [Orthodontic Care After Being Injured](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/orthodontic-care-after-being-injured/)
- [Questions To Ask Your Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/questions-to-ask-your-orthodontist/)
- [Answering Your Clear Aligners Questions](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/answering-your-invisalign-questions/)
- [Questions About Adult Orthodontics](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/questions-about-adult-orthodontics/)
- [5 Questions About Orthodontic Recovery](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/5-questions-about-orthodontic-recovery/)
- [5 Important Questions About Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/5-important-questions-about-braces/)
- [Common Questions For Maintaining Healthy Teeth Post-Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/common-questions-for-maintaining-healthy-teeth-post-braces/)
- [Common Questions About Maximizing The Effectiveness Of Your Clear Aligners Treatment](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/common-questions-about-maximizing-the-effectiveness-of-your-invisalign-treatment/)
- [Common Questions About The Connection Between Orthodontics And Jaw Pain Management](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/common-questions-about-the-connection-between-orthodontics-and-jaw-pain-management/)
- [Common Questions About Treatment For Jaw Misalignment](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/common-questions-about-treatment-for-jaw-misalignment/)
- [Common Questions About Approaches To Treating Bone Loss With Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/common-questions-about-approaches-to-treating-bone-loss-with-braces/)
- [Nurturing Your Smile: A Guide To Post-Orthodontic Care](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/nurturing-your-smile-a-guide-to-post-orthodontic-care/)
- [Navigating Tomorrow: A Glimpse Into Orthodontics' Evolution And Cutting-edge Advancements](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/navigating-tomorrow-a-glimpse-into-orthodontics-evolution-and-cutting-edge-advancements/)
- [Unveiling The Functional Advantages: A Closer Look At Orthodontic Treatment](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/unveiling-the-functional-advantages-a-closer-look-at-orthodontic-treatment/)
- [Transforming Lives: Understanding The Impact Of Orthodontics On Overall Well-being](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/transforming-lives-understanding-the-impact-of-orthodontics-on-overall-well-being/)
- [Navigating Orthodontic Treatment: A Grown-Up's Guide To Adulting With Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/navigating-orthodontic-treatment-a-grown-ups-guide-to-adulting-with-braces/)
- [What Are Reasons To See An Orthodontist?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/what-are-reasons-to-see-an-orthodontist/)
- [What Are The Benefits Of Orthodontics?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/what-are-the-benefits-of-orthodontics/)
- [What Is Orthodontics?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/what-is-orthodontics/)
- [What Is Orthodontic Treatment?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/what-is-orthodontic-treatment/)
- [Common Orthodontic Questions We Hear](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/common-orthodontic-questions-we-hear/)
- [Your Orthodontist FAQs](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/your-orthodontist-faqs/)
- [Common Questions We Hear Around Orthodontics](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/common-questions-we-hear-around-orthodontics/)
- [Orange County Orthodontics FAQs](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/orange-county-orthodontics-faqs/)
- [Orange County Orthodontist FAQs](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/orange-county-orthodontist-faqs/)
- [The Most Common Questions for Orthodontists](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/the-most-common-questions-for-orthodontists/)
- [Answering Your Top Orthodontic Questions](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/answering-your-top-orthodontic-questions/)
- [FAQs About Starting Orthodontic](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/faqs-about-starting-orthodontic/)
- [FAQ Guide For Seeing An Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/faq-guide-for-seeing-an-orthodontist/)
- [Answering Common FAQs Regarding Orthodontics](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/answering-common-faqs-regarding-orthodontics/)
- [Insurance Claims Guide](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/insurance-claims-guide/)
- [Orthodontics For Children & Adolescents FAQs](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/orthodontics-for-children-adolescents-faqs/)
- [Common Orthodontic Treatments](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/common-orthodontic-treatments/)
- [Orthodontist LIability Issues](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/orthodontist-liability-issues/)
- [Types Of Orthodontic Treatments: FAQ](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/types-of-orthodontic-treatments-faq/)
- [Orthodontics For Older Adults: FAQs](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/orthodontics-for-older-adults-faqs/)
- [Am I A Candidate For Orthodontics? FAQ](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/am-i-a-candidate-for-orthodontics-faq/)
- [Orthodontics: Frequently Asked Questions](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/orthodontics-frequently-asked-questions/)
- [The Importance of Retainers](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/the-importance-of-retainers/)
- [Retaining Your Smile With Retainers](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/retaining-your-smile-with-retainers/)
- [Clear Aligners Vs. Braces: A More Confident Smile](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/invisalign-vs-braces-a-more-confident-smile/)
- [Should I Choose Clear Aligners Or Braces?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/should-i-choose-invisalign-or-braces/)
- [Closing The Gap For A Confident Smile](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/closing-the-gap-for-a-confident-smile/)
- [Recovery Tips After Orthodontic Treatment](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/recovery-tips-after-orthodontic-treatment/)
- [Important Facts About Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/important-facts-about-braces/)
- [Dental Issues Orthodontics Treat](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/dental-issues-orthodontics-treat/)
- [What To Ask During An Orthodontic Consult](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/what-to-ask-during-an-orthodontic-consult/)
- [Key Facts About Clear Aligners](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/key-facts-about-invisalign/)
- [What Does An Orthodontist Do?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/what-does-an-orthodontist-do/)
- [The Facts About Orthodontics](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/the-facts-about-orthodontics/)
- [What An Orthodontist Does Daily](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/what-an-orthodontist-does-daily/)
- [What Exactly Is An Orthodontist?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/what-exactly-is-an-orthodontist/)
- [Getting Orthodontic Treatment](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/getting-orthodontic-treatment/)
- [What An Orthodontist Does](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/what-an-orthodontist-does/)
- [The Usefulness Of Orthodontics](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/the-usefulness-of-orthodontics/)
- [The Benefits Of Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/the-benefits-of-braces/)
- [What Are Orthodontics](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/what-are-orthodontics/)
- [Why Do People Visit Orthodontists?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/why-do-people-visit-orthodontists/)
- [Dental Issues That Orthodontists Treat](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/dental-issues-that-orthodontists-treat/)
- [What To Know About Orthodontics](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/what-to-know-about-orthodontics/)
- [Tips For Maintaining Orthodontic Health](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/tips-for-maintaining-orthodontic-health/)
- [Signs You May Need Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/signs-you-may-need-braces/)
- [How To Prepare For Orthodontic Consultation](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/how-to-prepare-for-orthodontic-consultation/)
- [3 Orthodontics Tips](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/3-orthodontics-tips/)
- [Orange County Orthodontics](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/orange-county-orthodontics/)
- [3 Questions Regarding Orthodontists](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/3-questions-regarding-orthodontists/)
- [Dana Point Orthodontics](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/dana-point-orthodontics/)
- [Dana Point Braces FAQ](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/dana-point-braces-faq/)
- [Help With Orthodontic Anxiety](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/help-with-orthodontic-anxiety/)
- [Tips For Preparing Your Kid For Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/tips-for-preparing-your-kid-for-braces/)
- [Orthodontic Help For Your Kids](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/orthodontic-help-for-your-kids/)
- [Common Orthodontic Issues](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/common-orthodontic-issues/)
- [Seeing An Orthodontist While Pregnant](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/seeing-an-orthodontist-while-pregnant/)
- [What Seniors Can Do After A Fall](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/what-seniors-can-do-after-a-fall/)
- [What Do You Need A Dentist Or Orthodontist?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/what-do-you-need-a-dentist-or-orthodontist/)
- [The Proper Care Of Traditional Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/the-proper-care-of-traditional-braces/)
- [Questions You Should Ask Your Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/questions-you-should-ask-your-orthodontist/)
- [Treatments Offered By Orthodontists](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/treatments-offered-by-orthodontists/)
- [Signs You May Need To See An Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/signs-you-may-need-to-see-an-orthodontist/)
- [What to Consider When Seeing an Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/what-to-consider-when-seeing-an-orthodontist/)
- [Common Causes of Orthodontic Problems](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/common-causes-of-orthodontic-problems/)
- [Signs That You May Need Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/signs-that-you-may-need-braces/)
- [How Long Does Teeth Straightening Take?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/how-long-does-teeth-straightening-take/)
- [Benefits Of Teeth Straightening](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/benefits-of-teeth-straightening/)
- [Non-Cosmetic Orthodontic Treatments](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/non-cosmetic-orthodontic-treatments/)
- [Is The Orthodontist Only For Teenagers?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/is-the-orthodontist-only-for-teenagers/)
- [When Should A Person Visit The Orthodontist?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/when-should-a-person-visit-the-orthodontist/)
- [Understanding Clear Aligners Treatments](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/understanding-invisalign-treatments/)
- [Frequently Asked Questions: Orthodontic Treatment for Adolescents](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/frequently-asked-questions-orthodontic-treatment-for-adolescents/)
- [Frequently Asked Questions: Treating Temporomandibular Joint (TMJ) Issues With Orthodontics](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/frequently-asked-questions-treating-temporomandibular-joint-tmj-issues-with-orthodontics/)
- [Frequently Asked Questions: Wearing Braces](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/frequently-asked-questions-wearing-braces/)
- [Common Orthodontic Questions - Answered](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/common-orthodontic-questions-answered/)
- [Questions To Ask An Orthodontist](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/questions-to-ask-an-orthodontist/)
- [Common Treatments That An Orthodontist Provides](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/common-treatments-that-an-orthodontist-provides/)


## FAQ

- [What benefits are there to orthodontic treatment other than appearance?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/faq/what-benefits-are-there-to-orthodontic-treatment-other-than-appearance/)
- [How long does orthodontic treatment take?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/faq/how-long-does-orthodontic-treatment-take/)
- [What types of orthodontic treatments are available?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/faq/what-types-of-orthodontic-treatments-are-available/)
- [At what age should my child see an orthodontist?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/faq/at-what-age-should-my-child-see-an-orthodontist/)
- [What is orthodontics and why is it important?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/faq/what-is-orthodontics-and-why-is-it-important/)
- [Is Invisalign as effective as traditional braces?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/faq/is-invisalign-as-effective-as-traditional-braces/)
- [How long will I need to wear braces?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/faq/how-long-will-i-need-to-wear-braces/)
- [When should my child first see an orthodontist?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/faq/when-should-my-child-first-see-an-orthodontist/)
- [Am I too old to get orthodontic treatment?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/faq/am-i-too-old-to-get-orthodontic-treatment/)
- [How often should I see a dentist if I’m also in orthodontic treatment?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/faq/how-often-should-i-see-a-dentist-if-im-also-in-orthodontic-treatment/)
- [What happens during my first orthodontic appointment?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/faq/what-orthodontic-issues-do-you-treat/)
- [Which orthodontic conditions do you treat?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/faq/do-i-need-a-referral-to-schedule-a-consultation/)
- [Is a referral required to book a consultation?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/faq/what-are-the-differences-between-braces-and-clear-aligners/)
- [How long does orthodontic treatment typically last?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/faq/is-treatment-uncomfortable-2/)
- [What steps should I take if a bracket or wire comes loose?](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/faq/what-should-i-expect-during-my-first-visit/)


## Team

- [Hannah](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/team/hannah/)
- [Lily](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/team/lily/)
- [Krista](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/team/krista/)
- [Ilse](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/team/ilse/)
- [Ellie](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/team/ellie/)
- [Jadyn](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/team/jadyn/)
- [Berlyn](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/team/berlyn/)
- [Angie](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/team/angie/)
- [Dr. John Redmond](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/team/john-redmond/)
- [Lindsay](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/team/lindsay/)
- [Michele](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/team/michele/)
- [Desiree](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/team/desiree/)
- [Laurie](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/team/laurie/)


## Testimonials

- [Testimonial video 10](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/testimonial/testimonial-video-10/)
- [Testimonial video 9](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/testimonial/testimonial-video-9/)
- [Testimonial video 8](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/testimonial/testimonial-video-8/)
- [Testimonial video 7](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/testimonial/testimonial-video-7/)
- [Testimonial video 6](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/testimonial/testimonial-video-6/)
- [Testimonial video 5](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/testimonial/testimonial-video-5/)
- [Testimonial video 4](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/testimonial/testimonial-video-4/)
- [Testimonial video 3](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/testimonial/testimonial-video-3/)
- [Testimonial video 2](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/testimonial/testimonial-video-2/)
- [Testimonial video 1](https://johnredmondorthodontics.com/testimonial/testimonial-video-1/)

> We provide orthodontic care designed to support healthy, confident smiles for patients of all ages. From early orthodontic evaluations to adult treatment, our practice focuses on thoughtful planning, modern techniques, and care tailored to each individual's needs.

Led by Dr. John Redmond, our team combines advanced orthodontic training with a patient-first approach. By using digital planning tools and focusing on long-term alignment and comfort, we help patients throughout San Clemente and surrounding communities achieve smiles they can feel good about for years to come.